aluminum bottles

zach spaetti · Post by **zach spaetti** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:58 pm

has anyone ever tried the aluminum bottles we just capped a few of them my cousin gave me. He has alot more I can have and woundered of there was any risks involved

sirgiovanni · Post by **sirgiovanni** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:24 pm

I bottle them for my dad, he retired from Alcoa and digs'em. Probably about a year now, no problems.

zach spaetti · Post by **zach spaetti** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:24 pm

great cus i can get about 10 trash cans full

sirgiovanni · Post by **sirgiovanni** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:39 pm

Holy cow!

Now I will warn you that you can't watch them fill so you just have to make sure you watch them close filling.

zach spaetti · Post by **zach spaetti** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:00 pm

best thing is no LABELS to peel off and clean

ArtCox · Post by **ArtCox** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:48 am

Zach,
Sanitize, Sanitize, Sanitize.
Dish washer, no soap, heated dry..

Just a thought.

zach spaetti · Post by **zach spaetti** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:45 am

I usually rinse with a water jet then soak them for a couple days in star-san

MSpaetti · Post by **MSpaetti** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:06 am

Not to worry, our diligent sanitization methods have proven themselves effective. Although I do have a Shark steamer I want to use in the bottles right before filling. Maybe hold the bottles upside down and let the steam shoot into the bottle and run out. Just sounds like a good idea. I'll post if it is worth it or if its been tried, how bout it?

Thanks,
Mike S

sirgiovanni · Post by **sirgiovanni** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:07 am

Why do you say no soap?

john mills · Post by **john mills** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:13 am

zach spaetti wrote:I usually rinse with a water jet then soak them for a couple days in star-san

I wouldn't soak the aluminum bottles in star-san any longer than needed to sanitize them. Star san is an acid sanitizer. Soak them in PBW or oxyclean an alkaline cleaner with surfactants.

ArtCox · Post by **ArtCox** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:14 am

sirgiovanni wrote:Why do you say no soap?

Aluminum can contain scratches and the soap can get stuck in them. May cause a off flavor or other nasties.

sirgiovanni · Post by **sirgiovanni** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:23 am

Ok. I've been doing mine in the dishwasher with no probs, my dishwasher is fairly new though and I only use the liquid gel packs. Not sure if that has made a difference for me.

zach spaetti · Post by **zach spaetti** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:26 am

I thought that star san would not cause off flavors in trace amounts we have had good luck with it When we soak the bottles we don't make it very stong because them are in the solution so long

john mills · Post by **john mills** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:12 pm

zach spaetti wrote:I thought that star san would not cause off flavors in trace amounts we have had good luck with it When we soak the bottles we don't make it very stong because them are in the solution so long

If you're soaking the bottles to clean them, star San is not a good cleaner. Alkaline cleaners are better at getting rid of organic gunk. Star San when mixed as directed has a ph below 3. I would be concerned that the acidic star san would oxidize the aluminum bottles leaving enough residue to create a metallic flavor in the bottled beer. The contact time of star San's 30 sec-2 min for sanitization isn't long enough for excessive oxidation to build up.
But if you're happy with your results. That's all that's important.

ArtCox · Post by **ArtCox** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:25 pm

Star San is not a cleaner it's a sanitizer. You can't sanitize a piece of dirty equipment.

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