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Newburgh water

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:06 pm
by Don
Here is this falls Newburgh water report from Ward Labs.
Sample taken 12/10/14

PH 7.6
TDS 337
Sodium, Na 21
Potassium, K 3
Calcium, Ca 71
Magnesium, 17
Total Hardness, CaCO3 248
Sulfate, SO4-S 24
Chloride, Cl 30
Bicarbonate, HCO3 207
Total Alkalinity CaCO3 170
Total Phosphorus, P 0.02

Don

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:07 pm
by Blancaster
Awesome! Thanks for that!!


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Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:39 pm
by msjulian
Here's what I got from them Dec 2012

Calcium, Ca 81
Magnesium, Mg 21
Bicarbonate, HCO3 209
Sodium, Na 26
Sulfate, SO4-S 39
Chloride, Cl 33

Total Hardness, CaCO3 290
Total Alkalinity, CaCO3 171

Remember you have to multiply the SO4-S by 3 to get SO4 for your water calculations

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:26 pm
by Don
Hasn't changed too much..
Good water for Stouts!

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:26 pm
by msjulian
Definitely.. I tried an 8 srm beer with a blend of Newburgh and RO and added some 5.2 stabilizer and still ended up on the high side on my ph.

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:36 pm
by Don
Don wrote:Here is this falls Newburgh water report from Ward Labs.
Sample taken 12/10/14

PH 7.6
TDS 337
Sodium, Na 21
Potassium, K 3
Calcium, Ca 71
Magnesium, 17
Total Hardness, CaCO3 248
Sulfur, SO4-S 24
Sulfate, 72 * see note.
Chloride, Cl 30
Bicarbonate, HCO3 207
Total Alkalinity CaCO3 170
Total Phosphorus, P 0.02

* If your water report gives Sulfate as Sulfur (SO4-S) such as a Ward Lab's report, multiply by that by 3 to get SO4.

Almost forgot about this..

Don

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:40 pm
by Don
I've spent the last 4 week trying to learn a little bit more about brewing water.
I've read:
Plamers/Kaminski: Water A Comprehensive Guide for Brewers
Palmers: How to Brew
Dave Miller's: Homebrewers Guide
Gordon Strong: Brewing better Beer
Listened to countless back issues on Brewing Network
Spent hours online:
Bru"n Water
EZ_Water
and lots more
What I learned is:
(The short version)
Beer is approximately 90% water
If your water taste good it will make good beer.
Mash pH effects beer pH and will effect the final beer flavor
Know your water makeup and keep the adjustments minimal

Seems like I spent a lot of time to learn that just to keep doing what i've always done

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:27 pm
by msjulian
I only adjust for color so my PH comes in where I want it. (nothing you haven't already been doing for years). One thing I have not been paying attention to (until John M got his beer reports back from the lab) is finished beer PH. He seemed a little concerned about a couple of the numbers in the report. I have been meaning to follow up with him and see what his thoughts were on boil and finished beer PH.

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:06 pm
by Blancaster
I just got my pH meter delivered. Now just need to learn how and when to use it....

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:21 pm
by Don
I remember reading (I think in Palmers book can't find it right now) about how wort pH effects flavors of the finish beer. It was more than I originally thought.

I've been also doing some reading and (small batch testing) on the precipitation of calcium when you use phosphoric acid. Thats my primary acidification for my mash and sparging water.

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:22 pm
by Don
Blancaster wrote:I just got my pH meter delivered. Now just need to learn how and when to use it....
Calibrate it. Don't ASSume it's right.

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:23 pm
by Blancaster
I already calibrated it! Twice actually! lol!


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Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:25 pm
by Don
Then your ready to go.. :D

Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:29 pm
by Blancaster
When do I test the mash? Do I just stick the probe in there, or fill a little cup with liquid?


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Re: Newburgh water

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:32 pm
by Don
I use a small sample cup.
And you want liquid only in the sample, no grains / husks.