Hop addition confusion

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Hop addition confusion

Post by Blancaster » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:31 pm

First off, I don't know that this makes a difference but I do biab and chill with an immersion chiller.
I also used pellet hops and a hop bag.

I'm a little confused when it comes to hop additions and times
Say you have a recipe with 60 30 15 and 5 minute additions. Obviously you would add the additions that many minutes till the end of boil. But what if you have a recipe with the same addition times but have 0 min boil addition (not dry hopped). How long should those stay in the wort? What about the other additions, if you use the same hop bag it will extend the times they are in the boil.
I hope my question is understandable lol!!
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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by SkyBrew » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:33 pm

Zero minute hop additions means to add the hops at "flame out" which is when you shut off your burner or heating element. they do not go into the fermenter but its ok if some make it in there. the reason for this is to get the hop floral aroma and flavor without the bitterness. Just be warned it doesnt last long, IPA's are ment to be drank quickly, not aged.
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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by Blancaster » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:14 pm

When you add the 0 min hops at flame out, how long should they steep? 5 min? 10min?
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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by SkyBrew » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:38 pm

Leave em in until the wort is chilled and leave them in the kettle when you are moving to the fermenter
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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by sirgiovanni » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:11 pm

I prefer aging my dry hopped Belgian IPAs and Bretts but I'm more interested in balance. ;-)
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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by Blancaster » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:17 pm

What about the other hop additions? So I should use 2 hop bags? One for the 60 30 15 etc... And pull those at flame out and then use a 2nd hop bag for the 0 min additions?
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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by psfred » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:54 pm

I use a separate bag for each addition. Opening a boiling hot bag doesn't appeal to me.

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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by Jam095 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:08 pm

I add each addition per hop schedule, all into the same bag, including the "flame out" addition. A lot of times I'll just whirlpool with the hop bag still hanging in the wort.
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Re: Hop addition confusion

Post by SkyBrew » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:05 am

Most people use a separate hop bag for each addition or a hop spider which is a device that allows you to direct pitch the hops into the kettle without letting them get loose. You might want to pull the hop bags out as your racking into your fermenter so that they dont clog up the racking tube. Leaving them in does extend the time they are in the kettle a little bit but after boiling for 60 minutes its not going to matter if its in the kettle as it cools.

Ultimately everyone has their own brewing style and there is no right or wrong answer. Brewing is a lot of trying different things to find out what works the best for you and your system. If you give 100 brewers the same recipe you may have 100 completly different beers at the end. Try it one way this time, and then the next time you brew try it another way and see if you can tell a difference. If you can tell a difference, go with the way that you think tasted better!
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