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Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:51 pm
by msjulian
Here is the report I just received from Ward Lab. This is a water sample straight out of the tap.

Calcium, Ca 81
Magnesium, Mg 21
Bicarbonate, HCO3 209
Sodium, Na 26
Sulfate, SO4-S 39
Chloride, Cl 33

Total Hardness, CaCO3 290
Total Alkalinity, CaCO3 171

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:54 pm
by Don
Thanks

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:03 pm
by Don
Thanks
It not Too far from the March 2010 they did for me.
http://www.ovha.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.ph ... urgh+water

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:30 am
by BREWsmith
Not being a techie, what does that mean? Treat? If so, why and with what? Thanks.

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:10 pm
by Chris Norrick
We have a good water chem discussion over in the "Evansville Water" sticky.

A good read: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f128/brewin ... er-198460/

This is what I'm currently using: http://www.ezwatercalculator.com/

I usually add 5 gallons of walmart RO water and the difference is charcoal filtered tap water. I shoot for like 60-90% RO water. Having some tap water adds in some trace stuff that get stripped out of 100% RO. The spreadsheet will show you what the resulting salt concentrations and ratio will be after the dilution of soft RO water.

I completely ignore Residual Alkalinity (RA) and only adjust for the Chloride/Sulfate ratio. It's like adding seasoning to cooking for me. RA is too much smoke and mirrors for me but a lot of people rely on the RA number, including Palmer.

I only adjust with Gypsum (CaSO4) and Calcium Chloride (CaCl2) to get the Chloride/Sulfate ratio to what is appropriate for the style I'm brewing but keeping their total concentrations relatively low. Adding the RO water keeps them low since you are starting with less in the water.

I adjust the pH with a little Acidulated Malt in my mash. This is also in the spreadsheet.

Example: Hoppy wheat, 5 gallon BIAB

Total water: 8.33 gal
RO: 5 gal (dilution 60%)
Tap: 3.33 gal

Added 2g CaSO4 + 3g CaCl2 for a ratio of .72 (which is skewed to the hoppy Sulfate side)
Total salts were 52 ppm Chloride and 73 ppm Sulfate.

Added 5oz (3.1% of total mash) of Acidulated Malt to bring mash down to 5.51 at room temp.

Here is the EZ Water spreadsheet for that beer if you want to look it over:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ozdcfdnb75t89 ... Wheat.xlsx

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:26 pm
by Chris Norrick
I thought your Sulfate was really low until I remembered that Ward reports it as SO4-S. Multiply by 3 to get SO4. =117.
msjulian wrote:Here is the report I just received from Ward Lab. This is a water sample straight out of the tap.

Calcium, Ca 81
Magnesium, Mg 21
Bicarbonate, HCO3 209
Sodium, Na 26
Sulfate, SO4-S 39
Chloride, Cl 33

Total Hardness, CaCO3 290
Total Alkalinity, CaCO3 171

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:29 pm
by Don
I missed that one. That's why you work at that school place.
:D

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:46 pm
by Chris Norrick
At 100% tap water, 33 ppm of Chloride to 117 ppm of Sulfate is a ratio of .28 which I would consider way out of balance even for a really hoppy beer. At minimum you could just add in like 5 or 6 grams of Calcium Chloride CaCL2 for a 5 gallon batch and have reasonable balanced water. Add less for a hoppy beer and more for a malty one.

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:42 pm
by Blancaster
Has anyone gotten a more recent Newburgh water test done?
Does this have to be requested through a lab? Or can I call Indiana American Water and request the information?

Re: Latest Newburgh Water Test

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:14 pm
by Blancaster
Ok, so I emailed Indiana American Water and requested test results for the following (which I got from Ward Labs website)
Sodium, Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, Carbonate, Bicarbonate, Chloride, Iron, Sulfate, Nitrate, Electrical Conductivity, Est.Total Dissolved Solids, pH, Total Hardness (Lime), Total Alkalinity & Total Phosphorus

This is the response I got.

I hope this helps anyone that needs it!!



Per your e-mail request, I am forwarding the information regarding some of the water quality characteristics of water being provided to Indiana American Water customers in Newburgh. We do not test results for some of the parameters you requested. All units of measurements are in milligrams per liter (mg/L) which is equivalent to parts per million (ppm).

I have copied Roger Johnson, Newburgh Operations Superintendent, on this e-mail also.

Thank you for your inquiry.
Wynn Wright



Samples collected from water being pumped from the Newburgh Water Treatment Plant

Parameter Year Sampled Sample result (mg/L)

Alkalinity 2014 180

Calcium 2014 75

Chloride 2014 29

Hardness 2014 270

Iron 2014 0.03

Magnesium 2014 19

Nitrate 2013 0.43

pH 2014 7.1

Potassium 2014 Non Detectable

Sodium 2014 25

Sulfate 2014 140





Wynn E Wright
Supervisor - Water Quality and Environmental Compliance
Indiana American Water
2423 Middle Road
Jeffersonville, IN 47130

812.218.1509 Office
812.284.3541 Fax
wynn.wright@amwater.com
www.amwater.com