1st Yeast Starter
- Tom Wrinkles
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1st Yeast Starter
I am trying my first yeast starter today. I boiled one quart of water with half a cup of light DME for 15 minutes, let it cool and poured it into a sanitized gallon jug. When i opened up my brand new WLP013 vial after shaking it well, it erupted. I am guessing I lost about a quarter of my yeast. Will I still have enough yeast to pitch tomorrow on top of a 1.071 wort or will I have to make another starter?
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
5 gallon. This was the first time I ever opened up a white labs vial. I lost a lot of yeast on the counter top. It acted as if it was carbonated or maybe I shook it too much.
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Tom Wrinkles
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
- Don
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
Sorry I just reread the post. I thought you were using a stir plate.
That's the big difference in getting O2 into the starter
1.071 w/5.25 gal you will need @ 256 Billion yeast cells.
1 pack (1 month old yeast) with @ 2 lt. of wort in a stir plate will take care of a 1.071
But
Without a stir plate (Simple shaking) you will need 1 tube with a 3 qt starter.
This is calculated using 1 month old, healthy yeast,
You learned the same lesson as the rest of us. If you shake up a white labs tube let it sit a while and open it real slow.
That's the big difference in getting O2 into the starter
1.071 w/5.25 gal you will need @ 256 Billion yeast cells.
1 pack (1 month old yeast) with @ 2 lt. of wort in a stir plate will take care of a 1.071
But
Without a stir plate (Simple shaking) you will need 1 tube with a 3 qt starter.
This is calculated using 1 month old, healthy yeast,
You learned the same lesson as the rest of us. If you shake up a white labs tube let it sit a while and open it real slow.
Don Heisler☮
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Brewers make wort, yeast make beer, God is good.
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Brewers make wort, yeast make beer, God is good.
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
Hey bud,
Two things;
If you have never made a starter before but pitched direct, this will put you ahead of where you were before so don't sweat it.
Second,
If you want to reach the correct pitch on this, let it work for 36 hours and put it in the fridge for two days. Then decant off the liquid from the top and use the yeast cake in the bottom to step up into a second starter. Only problem is you will have to delay brewing until next week.
If you have anymore questions or need some equipment, you're welcome to drop by sometime.
Two things;
If you have never made a starter before but pitched direct, this will put you ahead of where you were before so don't sweat it.
Second,
If you want to reach the correct pitch on this, let it work for 36 hours and put it in the fridge for two days. Then decant off the liquid from the top and use the yeast cake in the bottom to step up into a second starter. Only problem is you will have to delay brewing until next week.
If you have anymore questions or need some equipment, you're welcome to drop by sometime.
What would Jesus Brew?
Jimmy
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
I've had that experience without shaking the vial, just having it come up to room temp. Anyway, I'm with Jimmy, if you just go with what you have, you are gonna notice an improvement in your beer. And, you're already setting the stage for even better yeast health in the future as you improve your process.
Michael Erwin
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Some people say the glass is half empty.
Some say it's half full.
I just want to know who's drinking my damn beer!
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Some people say the glass is half empty.
Some say it's half full.
I just want to know who's drinking my damn beer!
- Tom Wrinkles
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
Thanks for the help everyone. I have to brew today or the next chance I have is next weekend. I am brewing another foreign extra stout with intentions of entering in the brewers cup and big turkey. Don, maybe with your help I can win the coveted Big Turkey Stein!
Tom Wrinkles
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Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
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Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
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Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
My secret for Big Turkey, Is don't add any yeast. It will be a real sweat beer then.Tom Wrinkles wrote:Thanks for the help everyone. Don, maybe with your help I can win the coveted Big Turkey Stein!
Good luck.
Don Heisler☮
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Brewers make wort, yeast make beer, God is good.
- Tom Wrinkles
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
I hit my gravity at 1.071. It is already bubbling just two and a half hours after pitching.
Tom Wrinkles
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
[quote="Don"] It will be a real sweat beer then.
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Would that be a sour beer then?
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Would that be a sour beer then?
Tom Wrinkles
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
- Don
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
Have to ask Dwayne, he likes that sour stuff.
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
Tom,
Don lobbys thousands of dollars through the local judges. You don't have a chance even though your beer is better.
Don lobbys thousands of dollars through the local judges. You don't have a chance even though your beer is better.
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Jimmy
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Don makes some great beer!sirgiovanni wrote:Tom,
Don lobbys thousands of dollars through the local judges. You don't have a chance even though your beer is better.
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Tom Wrinkles
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer.
Bottled/Kegged: Brown Ale, English Barleywine, Oatmeal Stout, Kolsch, Marzen, English Porter, Marzen,
Fermenting : ,
Next up: Saison, Belgian Blonde
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
What the hell..o this have anything to do with "1st Yeast Starter"
This should all be posted In private messages, so we don't give anyone else any ideas.
JMO>>
I have way too much invested to give away all my secrets, and Jimmy is now cut out of my will..
This should all be posted In private messages, so we don't give anyone else any ideas.
JMO>>
I have way too much invested to give away all my secrets, and Jimmy is now cut out of my will..
Don Heisler☮
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Brewers make wort, yeast make beer, God is good.
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Brewers make wort, yeast make beer, God is good.
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Re: 1st Yeast Starter
TomTom Wrinkles wrote:I hit my gravity at 1.071. It is already bubbling just two and a half hours after pitching.
How did it finish out?
Did you get near the OG at the finish you wanted?
Don Heisler☮
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Brewers make wort, yeast make beer, God is good.
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Brewers make wort, yeast make beer, God is good.